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brynden
podcast historian
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:48 pm Posts: 1618 Location: Austria
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Hi, just finished your last episode - I have to say: Pretty good. I really liked the idea that Mimi brought her medical knowledge into this episode. You once had an attempt of "character of the episode" - and I think your little discussion about Hodor, his Hodor, his family-background and his mental state was way better than all your former attempts on such a character spotlight. I know it was not really planned - but these are the situations when you often show your best performances.
I feel you should return to your "2 chapters per episode"-amount, that was/is normally a quite the right number. But I feel that the hosts really should try to read them (and the right ones), because although TotH is our beloved source for quick summaries, it is not enough for discussing the details (Idontlookatyoumimi). No offense - but I don't know how often anybody of you has said "WHat THIS chapter I thought it was THAT" and afterwards tried to follow the others while reading TotH.
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Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:54 am |
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Kyle
for my freckles, your grace
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 1994 Location: Los Angeles
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brynden wrote: But I feel that the hosts really should try to read them (and the right ones), because although TotH is our beloved source for quick summaries, it is not enough for discussing the details (Idontlookatyoumimi). Haha! You're absolutely right. coughmimicough. I need to read each chapter before we talk about them. Even on the 6th reread or whatever number this is for me I still pick up new things and now that Dance is out a reread shines even more new light on things. Thanks Brynden!
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Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:02 am |
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ShadowStalker
house bolton
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:40 pm Posts: 1077 Location: Bottom of the Lake
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So a quick reference in terms of the how many chapters re-reads you guys have left and the regards to the pace in which you release podcasts...
A Clash of Kings - 52 Chapters left to cover A Storm of Swords - 82 Chapters A Feast for Crows - 46 Chapters A Dance with Dragons - 73 Chapters
Total of 253 chapters.
If say you average 12 reread chapters a year (HA!!!!) and do 2 chapters each podcast. That is 10 1/2 years (127 more episodes) of podcasting. (7 years (85 episodes) if you do 3 chapters)
Love the podcast.
P.S. This is not intended on making any statement on the frequency of how often you guys are able to to put shows out. Do what you guys do. Just a funny thought on the possiblity of you guys still doing this 10 years from now.
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:10 pm |
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Alias
★wardens of the woody★
Joined: Tue May 22, 2012 1:29 pm Posts: 4538 Location: Boulder, Colorado
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So it really is a race with George then.
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Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:36 pm |
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witless chum
★wardens of the woody★
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:20 pm Posts: 1527 Location: Kalamazoo, The Southern North
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Interesting that Barrowton and our friend Barbrey Dustin isn't mentioned during the Lords of the North rollcall. I wonder if that means Martin hadn't conceived her as a character yet.
Is there any reason Hodor couldn't be mentally retarded AND have the specific speech disorder?
I gotta say, the evidence for Hodor being a descendant of Dunk seems super thin and honestly the evidence for Brienne isn't great either. Tall and Dunk was at Winterfell and tall plus shield. I guess we know Dunk was on the Kingsguard, but not that he was always on the Kingsguard, so he could have openly fathered children with his wife and then joined the Kingsguard if she died. Maybe? But I think it has to have been a secret kid, otherwise people would have said at some point "oh, of course Brienne of Tarth is huge. Her great-great uncle was Ser Duncan the Tall." It's a very ancestor-conscious society, after all.
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:59 pm |
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inkasrain
team blacksmith
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:19 am Posts: 1785 Location: Laptopville, NY
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I suppose I really should read those DUNK AND EGG stories at some point.
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:10 pm |
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gsdg
☑ ☑ ☑ guest host: triple gold club™
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:54 am Posts: 2203
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inkasrain wrote: I suppose I really should read those DUNK AND EGG stories at some point. I'm holding out for the compilation myself......... hopefully I won't break and end up paying a ridiculous amount for several anthologies when I'll only read one story of each.
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:20 pm |
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jesicka309
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Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:40 pm Posts: 1830 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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gsdg wrote: inkasrain wrote: I suppose I really should read those DUNK AND EGG stories at some point. I'm holding out for the compilation myself......... hopefully I won't break and end up paying a ridiculous amount for several anthologies when I'll only read one story of each. There are 'secret' places online you can read them for free... no idea how to find it anymore, but that's how I read them! I will buy them once they are in a compilation though.
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:00 pm |
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gsdg
☑ ☑ ☑ guest host: triple gold club™
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:54 am Posts: 2203
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witless chum wrote: I gotta say, the evidence for Hodor being a descendant of Dunk seems super thin and honestly the evidence for Brienne isn't great either. Tall and Dunk was at Winterfell and tall plus shield. I guess we know Dunk was on the Kingsguard, but not that he was always on the Kingsguard, so he could have openly fathered children with his wife and then joined the Kingsguard if she died. Maybe? But I think it has to have been a secret kid, otherwise people would have said at some point "oh, of course Brienne of Tarth is huge. Her great-great uncle was Ser Duncan the Tall." It's a very ancestor-conscious society, after all. I wouldn't be surprised if the "Brienne is descended from Dunk" theory were true, that it would be from her mother's side. Westeros is very ancestor-conscious, but the female line is still considered less important. Unless, of course, you are a Martell.
_________________ "Opinions are like orgasms..... mine matters most and I really don't care if you have one." - (not) Sylvia Plath
"At some point you will tell the duck what you are doing next and then realise that that is not in fact what you are actually doing. The duck will sit there serenely, happy in the knowledge that it has helped you on your way."
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:27 pm |
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Amin
Site Admin
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:16 am Posts: 4503 Location: Starfall, Quebec
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From So Spake Martin (things Martin has said) on Dunk's descendant:
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:47 pm |
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brynden
podcast historian
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:48 pm Posts: 1618 Location: Austria
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Ask the right person via private message and you might be led to secret places...
Regarding Dunk's descendants. Maybe Martin is a very sly person and it is somebody very small?? But I think that would be too strange - even for Martin-genetics. After reading Amin's 2nd link I'm pretty sure it is Brienne - she took Dunk's shield.
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Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:19 pm |
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LordManderBlee
★wardens of the woody★
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:40 pm Posts: 4839 Location: Philadelphia
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brynden wrote: Ask the right person via private message and you might be led to secret places...
Regarding Dunk's descendants. Maybe Martin is a very sly person and it is somebody very small?? But I think that would be too strange - even for Martin-genetics. After reading Amin's 2nd link I'm pretty sure it is Brienne - she took Dunk's shield. Yeah I think that's pretty clear
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Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:20 am |
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Lost Umber
house micro-woody☹
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:32 pm Posts: 6
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Great episode. A few points were kind of rushed over:
Hodor is Old Nan's great-grandson. His grandmother could have been Tanselle 2 tall (or the tall girl in the Dance flashbacks).
Old Nan was brought to Winterfell as a wet nurse for an unknown Brandon. Her sons were killed in the wars and her daughters died.
Hodor's name is Walder. There seems to be only one family who would want to use that name... So Hodor's mom (Nan's granddaughter) likely knocked boots with the late Lord Frey.
Lady Hornwood didn't eat her fingers because of starvation. She was most likely being flayed and (according to Theon/Reek) the pain is so intense one would do anything to remove the flayed appendages. Likely she was trying to bite off her fingers since Ramsey was out of Tylenol.
Mors Umber's dragonglass eye can shoot laserbeams which can take out mass hordes of wights and others. Umbers are the kick-ass family of the north.
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Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:53 am |
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LordManderBlee
★wardens of the woody★
Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:40 pm Posts: 4839 Location: Philadelphia
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Lost Umber wrote: Great episode. A few points were kind of rushed over:
Hodor is Old Nan's great-grandson. His grandmother could have been Tanselle 2 tall (or the tall girl in the Dance flashbacks).
Old Nan was brought to Winterfell as a wet nurse for an unknown Brandon. Her sons were killed in the wars and her daughters died.
Hodor's name is Walder. There seems to be only one family who would want to use that name... So Hodor's mom (Nan's granddaughter) likely knocked boots with the late Lord Frey.
Lady Hornwood didn't eat her fingers because of starvation. She was most likely being flayed and (according to Theon/Reek) the pain is so intense one would do anything to remove the flayed appendages. Likely she was trying to bite off her fingers since Ramsey was out of Tylenol.
Mors Umber's dragonglass eye can shoot laserbeams which can take out mass hordes of wights and others. Umbers are the kick-ass family of the north. BAM!! Knowledge'd
_________________ "The north remembers, and this mummer’s farce is almost done" - Wyman Manderly, WHITE HARBOR FREY PIES
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Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:04 pm |
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walros
house manwoody knight
Joined: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:39 am Posts: 368 Location: Under a bridge
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Crazy necro bump, I know, but I found it amusing that one of today's top posts on reddit was about Hodor's aphasia: http://np.reddit.com/r/AskSocialScience ... as/cie0cjz
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Kyle
for my freckles, your grace
Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:06 am Posts: 1994 Location: Los Angeles
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Mimi's pseudo-medical knowledge for the win!
_________________"Not all those who wander are lost." www.MADCANARD.comFF: The Rat Cook
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