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Episode 111: Additional poll - Who would win in a fight?
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Author:  brynden [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  Episode 111: Additional poll - Who would win in a fight?
I thought we should gather the forum member's opinion on that one! Please give an explanation why!

I think it would be Daario. Because Barristan might be too old for him, Greyworm is more of a commander, and Jorah is surely a decent fighter, but not in his prime AND up against Barrsitan and Daario...
Author:  Bina007 [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:47 am ]
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I voted Barristan and you can hear my reasoning on VoK ep 3! (Although I warn you that my reasoning displays a shocking lack of knowledge.)
Author:  Dagos_Rivers [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:50 am ]
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Barristan! He could cut through the rest of them like carving a cake!
Author:  Red Viper [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:19 am ]
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Barristan the Bold.

Daario only sees an old man, he will be surprised by what a true knight can do.
Grey Worm has his spear, but he isn't the Red Viper.
Jorah Mormont is strong, but I think skill is better than muscle.
Author:  LordManderBlee [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:51 am ]
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Barristan the Bold. He was the greatest knight of his age, Daario's just an arrogant sellsword
Author:  Beric175 [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:42 pm ]
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Barristan. That's the reason they kept him back with Dany this season. So we can see how much of a figher he is next season at Meereen.
Author:  Pod's Plight [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:25 pm ]
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Beric175 wrote:
Barristan. That's the reason they kept him back with Dany this season. So we can see how much of a figher he is next season at Meereen.


Or because Ian McElhinney is actually a 65 year old man and, unlike Barristan, he can no longer convincingly perform the athleticism and physicality of a full speed fight. We haven't seen him in action on screen yet. We didn't see his escape from KL and he didn't fight the Titan's Bastard. Maybe old man fighting is just cooler in our minds than it is when actually played out.
Author:  LordManderBlee [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:35 pm ]
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Pod's Plight wrote:
Beric175 wrote:
Barristan. That's the reason they kept him back with Dany this season. So we can see how much of a figher he is next season at Meereen.


Or because Ian McElhinney is actually a 65 year old man and, unlike Barristan, he can no longer convincingly perform the athleticism and physicality of a full speed fight. We haven't seen him in action on screen yet. We didn't see his escape from KL and he didn't fight the Titan's Bastard. Maybe old man fighting is just cooler in our minds than it is when actually played out.

Yeah that's my theory. Honestly they gotta just stunt double and CGI it, I want it to be Barristan the Bold even if they have to cheat to make it happen :D
Author:  Kadayi [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:46 pm ]
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Pod's Plight wrote:
Or because Ian McElhinney is actually a 65 year old man and, unlike Barristan, he can no longer convincingly perform the athleticism and physicality of a full speed fight. We haven't seen him in action on screen yet. We didn't see his escape from KL and he didn't fight the Titan's Bastard. Maybe old man fighting is just cooler in our minds than it is when actually played out.


^What he said basically.

I have to say Ian McElhinney looked pretty uncomfortable in most of the outdoor shots. I'm not sure he's probably up for big combat stuff in reality.
Author:  jesicka309 [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:14 pm ]
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I went with Daario for these reasons:
1) Daario straight up murdered his two fellow commanders. We can assume that these guys are fair, if not excellent fighters, to have risen that high in the company. He might have surprised one before killing him, but not a second.
2) Daario is a professional fighter. While Barristan and Jorah also practiced things like jousting, hunting, archery etc Daario was out doing nothing but killing. If he's not killing, he's laying siege to a city. It's his job to be good at fighting - these companies go from contract to contract, and if he couldn't fight, he'd be dead.
3) Daario is a young, highly ranked officer within the Second Sons/Stormcrows *showvsbook*. He doesn't have age, or extensive years of experience like the Titan would have. So what makes him so highly ranked? His fighting ability, and as he's already proved, one on one fighting is his specialty.
4) Barristan's greatest value is in his years of service as Kingsguard. He's able to react to a threat in a split second, where many other men wouldn't. However, if we assume this is an all out melee, this advantage is taken away, as he knows that he has to fight. Sure, he killed Maelys the Monstrous, but we don't know anything about how good that guy is, or whether he was only commander of the Golden Company due to his lineage.
5) Jorah is a sub par warrior. He mentions that he fought for a few companies before joining Dany. BUT: Joncon fought with a company and rose up to be well respected. Daario is young, and has risen up to be well respected. Brown bn Plumm comments that there are old and bold sellswords - Ben is not bold by his own admission, but he is old. But Jorah? He basically flunked out...and he's old (wuss). And he nearly got killed fighting Drogo's bloodriders, wearing armour! He was pretty lucky to survive the wound he got from that.
6) Grey Worm's value is in a large army. In ADWD we see Unsullied get picked off easily in small groups as they run patrols. They only have one weapon, and are lightly armoured.
7) Daario has sexy lady swords. He wears armour (advantage), carries a full length sword (sorry Greyworm) and an arakh (don't cry Jorah). And if we are talking a melee, depending on how it goes, Daario could step back and let the others (Jorah especially) fight it out, and then step in to kill the victor of the first three. He's cunning enough to do that.


Team Daario.
Author:  gsdg [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:05 am ]
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jesicka309 wrote:
Team Daario.

Damn Straight. Seconding everything you said in the rest of the post, too.
Author:  KCenturion [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:36 am ]
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Kadayi wrote:
I have to say Ian McElhinney looked pretty uncomfortable in most of the outdoor shots. I'm not sure he's probably up for big combat stuff in reality.


Also, because he has to wear black armour in a desert climate. :shock:

I want to say Jorah because he has the experience that Daario lacks and the strength & 'youth' that Barristan no longer has. But while Daario is a braggart and unwitnessed the books, he kicked some serious ass on the show.
Author:  LordManderBlee [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Episode 111: Additional poll - Who would win in a fight?
KCenturion wrote:
Kadayi wrote:
I have to say Ian McElhinney looked pretty uncomfortable in most of the outdoor shots. I'm not sure he's probably up for big combat stuff in reality.


Also, because he has to wear black armour in a desert climate. :shock:

I want to say Jorah because he has the experience that Daario lacks and the strength & 'youth' that Barristan no longer has. But while Daario is a braggart and unwitnessed the books, he kicked some serious ass on the show.

Nah Barristan would wreck Jorah. Barristan started fighting in jousts and melees at ten! He killed Maelys and the rest of the band of nine at 15 or 16 then he fought his way through those robin hood people pretty well too!
Author:  HeyJoe [ Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:59 pm ]
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Barristan followed by Daario. Grey Worm is more like a Roman or Spartan soldier... great in a formation based battle, but not as much so as a single combatant (not saying he is a bad fighter, just a different type if that makes sense). Jorah... meh.
Author:  Nick of the North [ Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:54 pm ]
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Barristan....'cause he's Barristan!
Author:  LordManderBlee [ Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:49 pm ]
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HeyJoe wrote:
Barristan followed by Daario. Grey Worm is more like a Roman or Spartan soldier... great in a formation based battle, but not as much so as a single combatant (not saying he is a bad fighter, just a different type if that makes sense). Jorah... meh.

That's what I've been saying! thank you :D
Author:  aryastark7330 [ Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:00 am ]
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Come on ... has to be Barristan! I don't care that he's old!
Author:  DireWolfOfTheNorth [ Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:38 am ]
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Barristan the Bold of course!!!

Why you ask? Plain and simple. Experience. If the playing field was even and they were all the same age, Barristan would be schooling them.
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