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Episode 47: Winter is Coming

Episode 47 for the week of April 17th, in which we bring you the first of many Game of Thrones episode reviews. Tune in to hear our thoughts on the premiere of the HBO series, witness Kyle’s impersonation of Dany’s maid, and discover why Jamie should have worn sunglasses during the final scene.

Warning: this podcast episode (and all HBO’s Game of Thrones review episodes) will contain spoilers for aired episodes as well as all four published books in the A Song of Ice and Fire series. New viewers of the show who have not yet read the books, you’ve been warned.

27 Comments, Comment or Ping

  1. Tom

    I thought Dany totally wanted it in the book. I had the impression that Drogo worked her up to it for over an hour. He was a total Don Juan, massaging her, getting her comfortable, waiting for her to let him know she was ready. So, like completely opposite.

    Now, we didn’t see the whole thing. Maybe he pushes her down then gives her a back massage or something first. I dunno.

  2. Kyle

    Yes. Definitely a back massage…

  3. Rita

    I think they’re going to make Dany’s love for Drogo a bit of Stockholm Syndrome in the series *forgets where I read that* But yeah. I really don’t mind. Seems like it could be interesting, more realistic somehow. After all, what girl would be turned on after seeing a bunch of dudes die? *thinks of Cersei*

    Anyway, whoot! You guys certainly make work bearable for me 😀

  4. Katie

    If Osha and the wildlings can get around the Wall I’m sure a runaway Night’s Watch guy can.

    And sweet GOD, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau gave me so many boners. Rewinding him throwing Bran out the window over and over just got hotter and hotter.

  5. Ikertzeke

    You are right about the opening credits, it looks like Emilia´s and Sophie´s logos were wrong. Expect second episode opening credits with the right house logos. 😉

  6. I thought the opening credits thing looked like a stargate, but you’re very right, it’s the thing from Contact…

    btw a podcast of rape and lemon cakes sounds catchy 🙂

  7. oh, just found this: the opening title sequence explanation –
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/secrets-game-thrones-opening-credits-179656

  8. Mordion

    I tend to agree with Ashley that however nice Drogo was about it, the sex on Dany’s wedding night was rape. But even if we say it wasn’t, if Ashley’s right that this was an amalgamation of the wedding night and many of the following nights, then I think it’s probably a pretty fair depiction. I went back and looked at the chapter, and on those subsequent nights Drogo would wake Dany up in the middle of the night and take her from behind while Dany sobbed into her pillow.

  9. Mordion

    Oh, and I think Nancy and Mimi said something about the sex with the wedding dancers being non-consensual in the book, but I didn’t really see anything that suggested that.

  10. Ash

    The Dothraki, where the women go topless and the men wear corsets…

  11. Fishsticks

    Yes its ass backward, but I would make that trade in a heart beat if it meant titties on the reg 😉

  12. aj

    pounded out your whole podcast this month, i think kyle’s jon snow chapter summary was the overall highlight. as far as hbo episode one goes, i think they needed to show bran hit the ground to get the total shock, alot of the peeps i talked to looked at it as a cliff hanger as to whether or not he lands on hay or something so they aren’t properly appalled.

  13. Inkasrain

    Like I said on the forums, Dany’s rape/wedding night was one area where the show improved on the books for me. I don’t care how charmed Dany was by her horse, or how much time Drogo took, I never bought her willingness to have sex with this huge stranger who she couldn’t even communicate with.

    I might have felt differently if Drogo had seemed cruel to Dany, or deliberately caused her pain– that would have been out of character. As it was, Drogo seemed very utilitarian about the whole thing. There’s no question he sees her as an object, but there’s no malice or Viserys-style sadism about the way he treats her. He acquired Dany for a purpose, as he would acquire a horse or a slave, and is using her according to her function.

    Overall, I think it’s a really nice basis (in a thematic way) for Dany and Drogo to start their relationship on. Their relationship in the books is loving, but I would never call it healthy, and I think this is a good place to start that evolution.

  14. Brian

    What did Chase think of the episode?!

  15. ablaaa

    Good dissection of the first episode; You pretty much touched on all the little details I found interesting.

    Suggestion for rest of episodes: maybe talk for 5 minutes about what (important) parts of the book were left out, and how much it matters. 🙂

  16. Kyle

    I agree. I think it would be fun to mention the difference, but certainly not to dwell on them for too long.

  17. Mordion

    I think you guys should talk about whatever you found interesting in the episode, but to the extent you’re interested in what people want to hear, I vote for an exhaustive and detailed discussion of all changes, especially hair color.

    That’s not at all sarcastic, by the way.
    No, really.
    Really.

  18. Poe to the Pulps

    Exactly! Leave that to me in the forums 🙂

  19. Ed Spillane

    Loved the podcast…will continue to follow.

  20. Kyle

    Thanks Ed.

  21. Jenn Rose

    I would totally want to get a box of snakes as a wedding gift. Just sayin.

  22. Jenn Rose

    And I’ll take some nicer photos of my silly dragon egg tomorrow so you can compare. The sculpts of the HBO ones are fine, I think. I just hate the paint job they gave them. Too… bland.

  23. Kyle

    Haha! You totally would love those snakes. I should have known that.

  24. Jenn Rose

    After Erica went to that premier screening, she called me immediately (and a liiiiittle tipsy) rambling “Oh my God…. it’s so good… you’re gonna love it… Arya is so cute… and Tyrion… and the Hound’s helm is amazing… you like that… and… and there’s Snakes! You like snakes!”. HAHAHAHAHA! THAT was her review for me.

  25. Kyle

    And you wanted to see it even more after her review.

  26. Jenn Rose

    But of course!

    “Snakes” and “Hound”

    Two very important tag words in the world of Jenn.

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