May 20, 2008
Episode 8: Girls Night Out in Westeros
Episode 8 for the week of May 18th, in which the superior (female) members of the podcast (Mimi, Ashley, and Ashley 2) discuss the female characters of ASOIAF, sex scenes, and who we would like to see play the characters on screen. This is the counterpart episode to the Guys Night Out, and yes, we also answer the question posed by Amin in the last episode but with a little twist.
63 Comments, Comment or Ping
Anjou
Nice roar in the beginning, Very Lannister of you π
I can’t deny I have a lot of love Dany and Sansa, though. My favorite players in the Game (although no in the series knows it yet barring a few).
Great job again
May 20th, 2008
Chris
Hey girls, no need to beat around the bush, tell me what you really think of me.
For the record, I am 33.
Christ.
May 20th, 2008
Aaron
I just got off work, so I won’t be able to see what the hags gossiped about us. But, I did notice already that the RSS feed worked this time.
:toot:
May 20th, 2008
wormlips
Aragorn being bad ass and manly?! pfft Wise learned Maddox called him the fairy king and I completely agree with that. Except for his awesome role in ‘a history of violence’, viggo mortensen looks way too wimpy. Catelyn is definitely a wicked step-mother to Jon, and even more so now. I always wondered how a reunion with undead Catelyn and Jon would turn out. Oh and I liked the interesting twist on the desert island thingy. Everybody enjoys a human bonfire!
May 20th, 2008
wormlips
oh and did someone say that ben/tommen is gone? Thats a real shame because amin and him were the gurus of the show.
May 20th, 2008
Ashley 2
No, no, no. Ben is definitely NOT gone.
May 20th, 2008
lina
I have a serious girlcrush on Ashley 1. :O
May 20th, 2008
Jovi
Well ladies that was amusing. I kinda puked a little when someone said that the scene where Jaime saw Brienne’s bush was cute or whatever. NO! Not cute. Jaime was so sex-starved that he actually responded to that muscled, thickly-jungled woman. Hehe, and it was also real funny that Ben got sloppy thirds, after everyone else was picked. π
May 20th, 2008
wormlips
Jovi, I find your humor at the expense of the Child King Ben to be wanting. Tommen will one day be overlord of Westeros and can have any hoochie mamas he wants. All hail the Supreme Lord of Pootang!
May 20th, 2008
Anjou
I am so confused. I don’t why but I am.
May 20th, 2008
Matt
I’m scared to listen to this one. I have the feeling that poor Catelyn will get more abuse heaped upon her head.
May 20th, 2008
Rick
My itunes seems to be having problems updading this podcast, it still hasn’t updated episode 7 is there somthing im doing wrong?
Btw you could talk about art of ice and fire but all the pictures wouldn’t be on the net i suppose.
May 20th, 2008
Aaron
Rick- Something went wrong with the uploading and feedburner screwed up the RSS feed for episode 7. This episode should be working.
May 20th, 2008
Jovi
*cringes in fear at the thought of King Ben’s revenge* You’re right! I guess I’m going into exile.
May 20th, 2008
wormlips
That’s the spirit! Serve in exile with pride and whatever shred of dignity you have left to you. Maybe, just maybe, our most merciful Lord of King’s Landing will allow you to return, only so long as your wits are intact.
May 20th, 2008
Jovi
*nurses his small shred of dignity*
May 20th, 2008
Jakob Lightbringer
I think Chris and Mimi doth protest too much. They are obviously in denial of the volatile sexual chemistry. Muy Caliente!
May 20th, 2008
Rick
Cheers i directly downloaded it from this site its all good.
May 20th, 2008
Tiffany
Hey, you girls started to mention casting ideas for the possible HBO series. I don’t know if you’ve seen this guy’s ‘dream-casting’ for the show, but if you are planning on doing a whole podcast about it it’s a great place to start. Even though I don’t agree with all of his ideas for characters, he’s got head-shots and pictures for every actor so it’s a fabulous online visual aid for a discussion.
http://www.geocities.com/asoiafcasting/
May 21st, 2008
Enderlost
I love that list. Too bad casting budget would be extravagant with nothing left for production.
Still looking for the color of Bran’s eyes. Any help would be greatly appreciated
May 22nd, 2008
Ashley 2
Enderlost, Bran has the Tully coloring. So, it’s safe to assume he has the same color eyes as Cat and the rest of his siblings, well, except Arya and Jon for obvious reasons.
May 22nd, 2008
Enderlost
thanks, what I thought. I was just asking some people who might know better than I.
May 22nd, 2008
Anjou
Okay, I recently started a discussion that strikes at the evil root that is R+L=J
In my argument, I say that Jon is not the son of Prince Rhaegar, but none other than a product of incest between Ned and Lyanna. Thoughts?
May 22nd, 2008
Enderlost
feel like laying it out?
May 22nd, 2008
wormlips
wow anjou thats a big speculation. I just don’t think we have been provided with enough information to give a theory based on such a union any credit. Nevertheless, I LIKE IT!
May 22nd, 2008
Jovi
Anjou, that is quite the grand speculation. It would be one hell of a plot twist, but I don’t think that’s the case.
May 22nd, 2008
Anjou
Of all the Houses, the Starks appear to be the goodie two-shoes. Ned was completely obsessed with Lyanna, a bit too obsessed and Jon’s Starkish appearance suggests it. Westeros.org has got more on it.
May 22nd, 2008
Jakob Lightbringer
*Drawing Ice and looking into anjou’s eyes*
Do you have any last words?
May 22nd, 2008
wormlips
*valiantly jumps in between Anjou and Ice* Friends! Can’t we all just get along?
May 22nd, 2008
Ashley 2
Hi Anjou.
While I believe that the Lyanna + Rhaegar = Jon theory is pretty convincing I don’t like it at all (I hold a small amount of hope for another little crackpot theory). However… I don’t see Jon’s parents being Ned and Lyanna because Ned is far too honorable to do anything like that. Iβd be curious to see what evidence you have concerning Ned and his obsession over Lyanna because I donβt know of any.
π
May 23rd, 2008
Jovi
Since I despise House Stark’s black and white view of the world, I would love if that kinda scandal came to pass. But again…I just don’t see it happening. :/
*protect’s Anjou with his body against Jakob*
May 23rd, 2008
Jakob Lightbringer
*sigh*
If you can’t look a man in his eyes and hear his last words… maybe he doesn’t deserve to die.
May 23rd, 2008
Anjou
Ashley 2.0,
Honestly, I do not have conclusive evidence showing N + L = J
I merely came up with that theory to show that R + L = J is just as unplausible. Evidence? What evidence? If you believe all those guys then what about Ned referring to Jon and Rob in his first POV as “my sons”, interesting choice of words.
Secondly, Ned thinks of no woman more than Lyanna. It actually reminded me a lot of Jaime’s obsession with Cersei, albeit in a less sexual way (since Lyanna is dead, not much to yearn for). I mean, go back to that Crypt scene between Robert and Ned, there was more than sibling love between them to me.
Another thing that irks me is there is basically no witnesses to Lyanna’s pregnancy. nine months and not one person was around to notice she was pregnant? C’mon, his lineage would have been revealed by any of the Houses by now if Rhaegar had been the child. Besides, Rhaegar was a bit fruity. Ser Loras-like flower-giving fruity (not that there is anything wrong with that!) π
May 23rd, 2008
Kiss me I'm Myrish
You’ll all understand Cat once you become mothers…
May 24th, 2008
Kiss me I'm Myrish
You’ll all understand Cat once you become mothers…
May 24th, 2008
Anjou
i agree
May 24th, 2008
Jovi
I actually have a question for all of you. Forgive me if it makes me look ignorant. ON page 598 of a clash of kings, Catelyn is questioning Jaime Lannister, I never understood what Jaime meant by …”I will say, I think it passing odd that I am loved by one for a kindness I never did, and reviled by so many for my finest act.” What did he mean by “a kindess I never did”? What was he talking about?
May 24th, 2008
mimi
jovi- he is talking about the tysha debacle. tyrion believed that jaime had arranged the encounter to initiate him into manhood, therefore looking out for him as an older brother. tyrion’s always had a lot of affection for jaime, but i think that’s one instance in particular where he loved jaime for a sentiment that was actually contrived.
May 24th, 2008
Mo
so that’s the key to get ladies I need to not bathe! Its so simple!
May 24th, 2008
Jovi
I’ve read A Clash of Kings a thousand times, since it was first published when I was in eighth grade, and I NEVER could figure that out. Thanks for ending the mystery Mimi.
*grovels at Mimi’s feet*
May 24th, 2008
Anjou
so…how do we sign up for this… contest?
May 24th, 2008
Mo
So I’m still confused. Did Margaery actually do the nasty with all those people? Or is it up in the air?
May 25th, 2008
SoS_AP_5
^ No, she didn’t. Cersei was trying to incriminate Margaery in every way that she could, so she fabricated evidence by getting false confessions from that minstrel she tortured.
Yet again I encounter deep hatred towards Catelyn. Damn, I was sympathetic to her character, mostly because she is so different from the stereotypical female in fantasy works.
Best sex scene? Gotta be Jaime + Cersei, duh. It was just so well written. Even though it was short, it had all these great elements that made it stand out.
May 25th, 2008
Jovi
Yah, that scene was pretty hot…except that Cersei was on her rag..Who am I kidding, we’ve all done it. =P
May 25th, 2008
Mo
then what was the moon tea for?
May 25th, 2008
Chris
About the contest,
Its on, but we are still working out some the details. More to come later after the holiday (USA Memorial Day.)
Please be patient!
Trust us, it will be worth the wait.
May 25th, 2008
Mimi
anjou – we’re trying to gauge the interest level of the listeners first to see if we have enough willing participants. if there’s not a lot of interest, we’ll probably push back the contest idea. but if there is, we’ll get to formulating. don’t expect it to go down for a while, but we will definitely keep everyone updated on how to apply/submit questions/etc.
mo – i was also curious about the moon tea. was that just contrived as well? i knew that everyone else was. i just wasn’t sure about pycelle’s confession to cersei.
May 25th, 2008
Mo
See that’s what I can’t figure out. It makes no sense that Pycelle would lie to her at that point because he is being threatened with his life. Unless he catches on real fast, which he obviously doesn’t, there has to be some other explanation. But to be fair a lot of that story doesn’t make sense. I mean even about her being a maiden. Why wouldn’t Renly just fuck her and get it over with, even if he was a big homo?
Maybe she is actually a man!!!!
May 25th, 2008
Jakob Lightbringer
mo said: “then what was the moon tea for?”
Because Cersei interrupts Maester Pycelle, we might never know (aFfC US Bantam Hardcover p576):
βShe desires . . . she . . . she . . .”
“Say it!”
He cringed. “Moon tea,” he wispered. “Moon tea for . . .”
“I know what moon tea is for.”
May 25th, 2008
Mo
oh! Never read it like that till now. THNX
May 25th, 2008
Jovi
Okay, I’m a lil tipsy, but what freakin contest? I listened to the podcast and heard of no contest.
May 25th, 2008
Anjou
Chris and Mimi-
Okay, thanks for the info! It sounds like a capital idea!
May 25th, 2008
Mimi
i think my first attempt at commenting failed.
jovi – consult the sidebar. poll, speciically.
jakob – this is why i love the podcast. brilliant listeners. i had never noticed the conversation in that light before.
May 25th, 2008
Jovi
I am so in that contest. Mimi filled the only void in my ASOIAF information.
May 25th, 2008
wormlips
Commenting on Mimi’s hopes for a crannogman fight: The idea of Howland Reed going up against knights on horseback seems to be almost doubtful. However, the crannogmen do use a unique fighting style which snares an opponent and prepares them for killing strike. I think that in the right terrain a squad of knights could easily be ambushed and slaughtered. But what interest me the most is Ned’s flashback of the tower fight with the targaryen kings guard. Ned claims he would have been killed had it not been for his buddy. This type of small group battle is very much alike to a typical roman gladiatorial battle. To further cement this notion, a type of gladiator was the net and trident fighter. So on the idea of Howland Reed being a badass? DEFINITELY! (just not so effective in a traditional field battle)
May 26th, 2008
Matt
Well, at least the Cat hatred was over at the beginning, and I could move on to the rest of the podcast. I’m still only halfway finished, but I’ll get there.
Anjou, do you really think that theory about Ned and Lyanna is true, or do you just throw it out there to show how you think people doctor the evidence of R+L=J?
May 26th, 2008
Slurpee_E
Catelyn hatred is fine by me, although I always liked reading her chapters. Not because of her, but because she was around for some cool events like the fight at the Whispering Wood, the meeting between Renly and Stannis, and especially, Bronn’s duel in the Vale.
May 26th, 2008
Anjou
Matt-
Its a little more of the former than the latter. While it may not have the textbook references like that other crackpot theory has, I find it just as plausible. I was rereading GOT when it hit me, to be honest.
May 27th, 2008
Enderlost
The whole Bran/Meera thing will never happen for reasons other than you think, Mimi…. Well, at least in my epileptic tree idea.
May 28th, 2008
Enderlost
I really like that theory about Gendry/Arya as the match that should have been
May 28th, 2008
Avernaith
Fantastic podcast ladies, the finest yet in a series of excellent episodes. I’m a recent subscriber and your witty banter was enough to draw my wife into listening as well. Very fair since she got me started reading A Game of Thrones. Merry Meet!
Jun 12th, 2008
Michael
You should make a podcast about Jon’s parentage. Read this http://towerofthehand.com/essays/chrisholden/jon_snows_parents.html
first though.
Jun 16th, 2008
anon
I just want to say that this podcast was weak. The guys night was more interesting, more well done, and less annoying. Chris is much less obnoxious than Mimi who is clearly obsessed with being the center of attention. This podcast is great, but sometimes Mimi is a real dealbreaker.
Dec 10th, 2008
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